Kiama Connection McIntyre Family

I have 2 big pieces to the jigsaw puzzle. This Kiama Clan of McIntyres I believe to be related.

My guess is (based on some clues and evidence)  that the Thomas here is the older brother of my James McEntyre who lived in Dublin.
I have the death certificate for Thomas that lists another Thomas as his father, born in Offaly Gillen (King’s County).

The evidence of a link being Jame’s grandchildren James and Mary who went to Australia to Kiama.

On James’ shipping list notation it says he’s going to Kiama and has an Uncle there. (A grand Uncle?).

Uncle Thos (Thomas)

On Mary’s death certificate it shows a James as her cousin. (will scan later). James being the son of Kiama Thomas,

As both sides of the puzzle have Thomas & James predominantly both sides seem to consistently name their sons after their fathers.

I have them both my James and this Thomas as being born in 1798 based on what I can find but I don’t believe the data is accurate enough to want to declare them as being twins just yet.

I found the pedigree below on the net somewhere but I think this is actually three different McIntyre families from the same area in King’s County who all came on the same ship to the same place. Probably cousins. The ship list has them divided and by age you can see there are 2 or 3 families involved. Will sort that out hopefully in summer when the Offaly records go online.

Thomas and his son James get a lot of write ups about being pioneers in Kiama with a host of other families. It seem they all split up after Thomas died and ended up as far away as Lismore. There must be 100s of their ancestors all over N.S.W but I can’t find any as yet. Especially any interested in helping me. (more here)

In 1885 Kiama James owned 200 acres,  5 horses, 100 cattle and 45 pigs.

Gerringong         J. M'Intyre      200        5     100           45

Steam_Packet_Hotel_Kiama
Ship's list:
1) Family
2) Separate girls
3) Separate boys

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1 Thomas McINTYRE 1798 – 1881 d: May 03, 1881 in Gerringong, NSW b: Abt. (There is a Thomas listed as this Thom’s father on his NSW death cert)

1798 in Gillen, OFF
. +Mary DEVERY 1805 – 1893 d: September 01, 1893 in Gerringong, NSW b: 1805
in Clonmacnoise, OFF
…….. 2 Hubert McINTYRE 1827 – b: 1827 in IRL Gillen OFF
……..XXX 2 Anne McINTYRE 1829 – b: 1829 in Clonmacnoise OFF
………… +Francis McINTYRE (no Francis on the ship’s list)
………………. 3 Maria McINTYRE 1855 – b: December 07, 1855 in
Kiama, NSW
………………. 3 Rosanna McINTYRE 1857 – b: May 10, 1857 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Francis McINTYRE 1859 – b: 1859
………………. 3 Thomas McINTYRE 1861 – b: 1861
………………. 3 William McINTYRE 1863 – b: 1863
………………. 3 John McINTYRE 1865 – b: November 07, 1865 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 James McINTYRE 1865 – b: November 07, 1865 in
Gerringong, NSW
…….. XXX2 Mary McINTYRE 1831 – 1892 d: March 02, 1892 in Gerringong, NSW
b: 1831 in OFF Clonmacnoise
………… +Patrick DEVERY 1828 – 1898 d: October 21, 1898 in Gerringong,
NSW b: 1828 in Monastrevor, OFF
………………. 3 Thomas DEVERY 1857 – 1927 d: March 15, 1927 in
Alstonville, NSW b: December 25, 1857 in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Patrick DEVERY 1863 – 1932 d: February 21, 1932 in
Broughton Village, NSW b: July 09, 1863 in Gerringong, NSW
………………….. +Catherine HANLY 1874 – 1961 d: July 25, 1961 in
Wollongong, NSW b: 1874 in Dunmore, NSW
………………. 3 James DEVERY 1866 – 1953 d: August 27, 1953 in
Broughton Village, NSW b: August 26, 1866 in Gerringong, NSW
………………….. +Elizabeth TAYLOR 1870 – 1951 d: December 17, 1951
in Broughton Village, NSW b: April 30, 1870 in Toolijooa, NSW
………………. 3 Maria DEVERY 1867 – 1944 d: April 23, 1944 in
Lismore, NSW b: September 06, 1867 in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Ellen DEVERY 1869 – 1955 d: August 07, 1955 in
Lismore, NSW b: November 04, 1869 in Gerringong, NSW
…….. XXX2 John Patrick McINTYRE 1831 – 1909 d: May 22, 1909 in Mosman,
NSW b: 1831 in IRL Clonmacnoise OFF
………… +Ann McGRATH – 1884 d: March 30, 1884 in Moss Vale, NSW
………………. 3 Mary McINTYRE 1864 – b: 1864 in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Thomas McINTYRE 1869 – b: January 16, 1869 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 James McINTYRE 1870 – b: October 10, 1870 in Kiama,
NSW
………………. 3 Patrick McINTYRE 1873 – b: November 21, 1873 in
Kiama, NSW
………………. 3 Rose Ann McINTYRE 1876 – b: 1876 in Narrandera, NSW
………………. 3 Grace McINTYRE 1878 – b: 1878 in Narrandera, NSW
………………….. +Claude H RETTER
………………. 3 Lall McINTYRE 1880 – b: 1880 in Narrandera, NSW
…….. XXX2 Bridget Maria McINTYRE 1833 – 1917 d: October 06, 1917 in
Chatswood, NSW b: November 01, 1833 in IRL Clonmacnoise OFF
………… +Laurence HAYDEN 1830 – 1910 d: March 17, 1910 in Goolmangar,
NSW b: 1830 in TIP
………………. 3 John Patrick HAYDEN 1861 – 1924 d: January 26, 1924
in Cairns, Qld b: June 26, 1861 in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Mary HAYDEN 1865 – 1902 d: February 20, 1902 in
Grafton, NSW b: February 06, 1865 in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Thomas J HAYDEN 1866 – 1932 d: March 10, 1932 in
Wagga Wagga, NSW b: November 30, 1866 in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Catherine HAYDEN 1868 – 1953 d: January 20, 1953 in
Lindfield, NSW b: December 19, 1868 in Gerringong, NSW
………………….. +James JOYNER
………………. 3 Lawrence HAYDEN 1871 – d: in North Sydney, NSW b:
February 03, 1871 in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 James HAYDEN 1872 – d: in Palmerston, NZ b: December
06, 1872 in Gerringong, NSW
…….. 2 Rose Anna McINTYRE 1838 – 1888 d: October 11, 1888 in Harley
Hill, NSW b: 1838 in Gillen OFF
………… +Thomas CAREW 1840 – d: in Lismore, NSW b: 1840 in Stornhill,
TIP
………………. 3 Mary CAREW 1867 – b: November 06, 1867 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Bridget CAREW 1869 – b: June 16, 1869 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Roseanna CAREW 1873 – b: October 03, 1873 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………….. +Thomas J McGOLDRICK
………………. 3 John Thomas CAREW 1876 – 1902 d: 1902 in (reg at
Lismore, NSW) b: July 31, 1876 in Gerringong, NSW
…….. 2 Catherine Agnes McINTYRE 1839 – 1930 d: November 11, 1930 in
Waverley, NSW b: 1839 in IRL Gillen OFF
………… +Michael MURRAY b: in IRL
………………. 3 Mary MURRAY 1868 – b: December 04, 1868 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 James MURRAY 1870 – 1884 d: January 09, 1884 in
Narrandera, NSW b: January 12, 1870 in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Johanna MURRAY 1871 – b: August 22, 1871 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Kate MURRAY 1873 – b: 1873 in Narrandera, NSW
………………. 3 Thomas MURRAY 1874 – b: June 24, 1874 in
Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 Michael John MURRAY 1877 – b: 1877 in Narrandera,
NSW
………………. 3 Michael Joseph MURRAY 1879 – b: 1879 in Narrandera,
NSW
………………. 3 Charles R MURRAY 1884 – 1938 d: August 06, 1938 in
Waverley, NSW b: 1884 in Narrandera, NSW
…….. 2 James M McINTYRE 1841 – 1925 d: April 17, 1925 in Lismore, NSW
b: 1841 in IRL Gillen OFF (probably the cousin James listed on Mary Josephine’s death certificate)
………… +Ellen REIDY b: in Kiama, NSW
………………. 3 William Thomas McINTYRE 1876 – b: November 19, 1876
in Gerringong, NSW
………………. 3 James P McINTYRE 1879 – 1932 d: January 07, 1932 in
Lismore, NSW b: March 15, 1879 in Gerringong, NSW
………………….. +Ethel Josephine CAMPBELL
………………. 3 John D McINTYRE 1881 – b: 1881
………………. 3 Terence D McINTYRE 1895 – b: 1895 in (reg at
Lismore, NSW)
…….. 2 Thomas Joseph McINTYRE 1847 – 1919 d: March 29, 1919 in
Goolmangar, NSW b: 1847 in IRL Gillen OFF
………… +Grace Boyle

cross posting

Surname Firstname Events Age Remarks Vessel Year Reel
MCINTYRE Anne 19 Subraon 1848 2135 Clonmacnoise
MCINTYRE Bridget 15 Subraon 1848 2135  Clonmacnoise
MCINTYRE Catherine 9 and family Subraon 1848 2135  Gillen
MCINTYRE Hubert 21 Subraon 1848 2135  Gillen
MCINTYRE James 7 and family Subraon 1848 2135  Gillen
MCINTYRE John 17 Subraon 1848 2135  Clonmacnoise
MCINTYRE Mary 37 and family Subraon 1848 2135  Gillen
MCINTYRE Mary 17 Subraon 1848 2135  Clonmacnoise
MCINTYRE Rose 13 and family Subraon 1848 2135  Gillen
MCINTYRE Thomas 38 and family Subraon 1848 2135  Gillen
MCINTYRE Thomas 1 and family Subraon 1848 2135

they got off that boat just in the nick of time…

Departed: London via Plymouth, 25 Dec 1847
Arrived: Sydney, 12 Apr 1848
Description: Wood Barque of 510 tons
Master: Captain Hodnett
Voyage: Rigging:  Bark; sheathed in felt and yellow metal in 1846; Tonnage:  430 tons using old measurements and 510 tons using new measurements. Construction:  1846 in Sunderland; Owners:  Arthur & Co.; Port of registry:  London; Port of survey:  London; Voyage:  sailed for Calcutta
Event: The “Subraon” sank on 26th October 1848 at Wellington Heads due to pilot error. En route Wellington to Sydney with 40 passengers. No lives lost amongst the earthquake refugees from Wellington.
Source: Lloyd’s Registers for 1846 to 1847
NZ Wrecks of Barques

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